Well, I'll take a different tack from Mr. Last to the question you raised.
I'm not sure, as I wasn't here when Mr. Byers made those comments, but I infer that he's raising the question of the access issue and the question of the launch of Radarsat-2 and the dispute that emerged over the question of launch after NASA refused initially to launch Radarsat-2, as they had launched Radarsat-1.
The debate then emerged about whether Canada should seek an alternative launch from either China or Russia, and of course all the political issues emerged, which then brought into play the reality of the integration of Canadian and U.S. industries and technologies. The fact of the presence of U.S. technology on Radarsat-2 gave the United States, of course, leverage on the issue of launch because it had to meet U.S. ITAR technology demands, which then gave us remote sensing legislation.
The answer to the question, of course, is that when one talks about a national space capability, one also is talking about the most important thing that everyone forgets. Radarsat-2 technology is wonderful, but if you can't put it up there, if you have no independent access, and Canada does not have an access capacity, then you rely upon others. Over the decades there has been a very profitable and mutually beneficial relationship with the United States, which now for security reasons on the American part has become a little difficult.
Canada, for a lot of strategic political reasons and economic reasons, cannot simply ignore that reality, and I think this is probably what the reference is. I don't think in that sense we've lost control of Radarsat. I don't think we've lost control of this technology per se. It's the reality of the beast, if you will, that no matter what the government's going to do, it can't really escape from and it has to always be sensitive to these types of questions and issues.