Thank you.
Professor Frolic, you mentioned dialogue and you quoted the Burton report. More specifically, you asked for a transparent process, and, at the same time, said that the Canadian government is not being transparent. You made it very clear that some groups should have been involved, but were not.
I would like to know what is happening on the Chinese side. How have the efforts at dialogue been received, and what influence does Canada really have to change things? I asked the previous guests the question too. I understand that it is being done in legal matters, but once laws are written and people are trained, we need one more step. We must be sure that people going through the justice system are treated in a way that we would call democratic, or more or less democratic. I understand the constraints in China, but I would like to hear about concrete results and to know how real Chinese people are reacting to them. I would also like to know exactly how Canada could change its approach, if it had to.