Five years ago there were more, but actually today there are fewer arrests of leaders. In the last two years basically the number of those jailed is less.
In the government church and the house church, the difference is the registration. Some of the churches had to close because of their numbers, and also they were meeting in places where the building was not safe. So basically the government comes and lets them know. First the police will come or maybe the religious bureau will come and let them know; they will write down their names and warn them that there is a safety issue or maybe their numbers are too big and they are bothering the neighbours, and they ask them to consider respecting that. If they continue to do that, after the third or fourth time they will send the police to warn them. That is the procedure.
I grew up in a police family, and most of my friends are still working in the police force. That's the procedure. They will not at first come to the scene. They will be asked by the religious bureau to come and interfere. They have to do that according to the law. If there is a request made by the police.... The church can sue them and ask a lawyer to represent them, or just go with some people and do some legal matters.