Mr. Chair, this is the full committee. That's why you're here. We had this debate in the steering committee, where there were only five of us, to bring this thing to the full committee. Now the full committee has the opportunity to listen to what was discussed. That is why we are saying this issue....
The central point, Mr. Chair, was that we do not have information that would actually make us feel that there was value in adopting Mr. Dewar's motion, except for Mr. Dewar himself, because that's his political ploy. He wants to put it out there. The point we are having difficulty with here is, where does this fit? Does this motion fit into this study motion over here that was put by Mr. Dewar, that pursuant to Standing Order blah, blah, blah, we invite Jim Judd to come here and...?