In fact, Nathalie came to Canada without her children, and she returned to get her children. We are really convinced that the children are as much in danger as Nathalie is and that they are being mistreated by the father.
As regards Mr. Deepak Obhrai's visit to my daughter, which took place on December 22, 2008, I believe that, on arrival, Mr. Obhrai told Nathalie that it was unnecessary to talk to him because he already knew her story. So he talked to Saeed and to other individuals there. In other words, he didn't hear Nathalie's account on site. In addition, he remained seated in Saeed's living room. He didn't visit the rest of the apartment to verify the situation, among other things.
As regards the numerous communications going through Foreign Affairs or the embassy, it seems to me they are still wondering whether or not Nathalie needs... They say she says she doesn't have a telephone, and they wonder how she was able to speak to her mother. I repeat to you today, and I will say it again often, that Nathalie spoke to me when Saeed gave her the telephone. So don't be surprised; she spoke to me, and I know I'm going to speak to her again.