As I say, they have an ethical screening mandate. Ours is a fiduciary mandate based on risk and return. Contrary to the characterization of the member, we don't invest directly in mines in those countries. We invest in public companies who may have small operations in those countries. We believe that by encouraging better transparency on the risks of operating in those countries, shining a light on those practices will lead to better environmental and ethical performance by companies.
On November 17th, 2009. See this statement in context.