Thank you.
Again, my sense is that in all of these, whether we're talking about the first two pillars or talking about prevention in the broad sense that I'm talking about it, there are many things that can be done in supporting either countries or the regions to build the capacity for the sort of peace processes that I'm talking about. Already the Great Lakes region is organizing itself. There are very specific needs that I think need to be met in order to enhance its capacity to be effective.
I do believe that if we diagnose problems in a country, whether they are political, economic, social, or what have you, there are resources that countries like yours can bring to bear to the situation. They aren't always material. It could be advice. It could be political. I talked before about sharing experiences, sharing models of what works, and doing so comprehensively. I think the Great Lakes region is torn apart by problems that are solvable, and the resources themselves have been a major source of division, which could be a source of coming together.
You mentioned Iraq. I tell my African colleagues in the UN system that we exaggerate here the intervention from the outside. Unless your national interests are so strong, as I'm sure the United States decided was the case in Iraq...or, perhaps as a result of what happened in Somalia, the United States was reticent to get involved in Rwanda. What happened in Rwanda made the United States become more involved in Kosovo, and perhaps also because of other interests there. Unless that is the case, intervention is not a popular concept.
I think we misplace it when we put it on top as a matter of concern, when indeed, for many of these countries, if it's anything at all, it is the lack of interest rather than the threat of intervention that is important. But this is not to say then that you disengage, because I don't think isolationism in the world of today is an option. I think what is needed is a more considered, constructive, productive engagement with the regions and with the countries of the region to bring about the desired objectives.