Point of order.
Mr. Chairman, as we know, this meeting is a creature of the opposition parties, who said that they wanted to have a dialogue. This was not agreed to and was unknown until Friday on the part of the government members. The difficulty we have has just been shown to us by Mr. McKay, who I'm sure was behind the opposition move to get this into a so-called dialogue, where one of the proponents of the contrary point of view to what has just been expressed and set up very nicely by Mr. McKay, Ms. George, sitting at the end of the table, has been outside of this dialogue. There is no dialogue here. It is a case of setting up the chamber and other credible witnesses to an onslaught by Mr. McKay and the people who are opposed to her.