For example, unions have been cooperative in ensuring that for the next 10 or 20 years.... With your civil service being professionalized, those jobs have to be protected for people who are trained to do the job, not only for those who curry political favour or who get a little gift from someone in government, but to make sure it is a separate and distinct service. Is that something the unions have collaborated on and participated in?
On November 4th, 2010. See this statement in context.