Thank you very much for coming in front of the committee.
Mr. Roche, I've been on this committee for almost eight years. You've appeared many times at this committee to discuss this topic. We are back to square one, discussing the same issues that we've been discussing for many years.
We had a unanimous resolution. I don't think there's anybody in this world who would not agree to having a nuclear-weapons-free world. That is a fundamental statement. Everybody would agree to that. But is that reality? I don't think so. You've been here; everybody has been here.
People seem to forget that Moammar Gadhafi was working on nuclear weapons before the bombing took place. He didn't get them. What would have happened today if he had? Who knows what that madman would have done?
This is the danger. The danger in Pakistan is that there is a civilian government, but what will the military do? The ISI is an independent arm, an authority accountable to nobody, and it continues to bring this thing here....
North Korea, Iran, and everybody have talked about how the other parts of the world.... There's a question we really need to grasp here, to come to the point that we're all ultimately aiming for—and I'm asking for your opinion. You have highlighted non-aggression pacts, non-aggression issues that would look at the security. You have highlighted the ICC issues and all those things here. But before we go to the other ones, why don't we, including your organizations, start working to achieve this and explore these issues on a smaller level, building on a block that ultimately goes...?
How many times have you been here in front of this committee? My problem, sitting here listening, is that we go to this motherhood statement, but we are unable to achieve it because the gap is extremely wide, considering the realities on the ground. You have pointed out that this is achievable, there are other ways to do it, and the four secretaries of state have already stated this. The realization in the world has changed. Non-state actors have come into play and pose a serious threat to the proliferation and everything.
I'm asking you and your organizations to take little fundamental steps to bring in these areas where others have concerns, meeting those small steps one at a time, and achieving in the years to come security concerns that some of these countries would have.... India and Pakistan would have security concerns. Why don't we take that route, instead of just jumping to the motherhood statements? If we do that, you'll be here next year talking about the same things.