There wasn't a debate, there was a discussion. For example, we had a five-year strategic plan, which the board has now adopted. We would invite staff members to make a presentation, and we would have discussions with them.
I as a board member never felt that either Mr. Beauregard or the staff thought they could dictate anything to us. But I do think the majority of the board felt that a minority was trying to gain absolute power at the expense of the majority, at the expense of the legitimate powers of the chief executive officer, Mr. Beauregard.
I can give you many incidents of mistreatment of staff members. We had Madam Cynthia Gervais in our Geneva office, who was interrogated, in two conversations with Mr. Gauthier and Mr. Braun, and she resigned shortly thereafter. Everyone knew they wanted to close down the Geneva office irrespective of what the majority thought.
Two staff members were interrogated because of their Middle Eastern backgrounds.
There are many issues we could discuss here about why the staff were so upset.