Well, of course it's the same way as Ezra Levant and Gerald Steinberg and others were given internal documents. But if I may just add, what I find astonishing is that Mr. Navarro-Genie is making these accusations. Before Mr. Beauregard's death, I was exercising my duty of care as a board member looking at the books of the board, and I noticed, for example, that Mr. Navarro-Genie had been in Haiti on a mission of Rights and Democracy, and this was the same mission that Mr. Riveras Franck had gone on earlier with the accusations of travel perks. Mr. Navarro-Genie stayed four extra days for personal purposes and he charged Rights and Democracy and received $1,300 for four days in which he stayed beyond the mandate entrusted to him by Rights and Democracy.
I was astonished to learn as well that Mr. Jacques Gauthier, who had gone on a six-day trip to China, received 11 days of fees from Rights and Democracy totalling $3,575, whereas the other members of the delegation received $500 honorariums.
If I may just add, the budget of the board, which was $130,000 for the previous fiscal year, was already approaching $300,000 when I left the board. A big part of that was honoraria that were paid to board members who come here and speak as if they're volunteers. The honoraria, which were budgeted at $40,000, were approaching $80,000 by the time I left the board. It's very unfortunate, really, that they need to now start smearing international members.