I'd separate it out. As I said, I have a real concern about the staff and the continuing credibility of Rights and Democracy when you have Mr. Latulippe, that kind of man, as president and Mr. Braun as chairman. I think some immediate action is needed to change the chairperson. I'm not sure you'll get a rapid agreement by a whole committee of the House on that person, but for other appointees going down or other steps, it would be good if across party lines you could do it.
That's why it seemed to me maybe it would be most efficacious if the committee recommended for a start that the chairperson who is responsible for all the other activity going on--ultimately and to this committee--be replaced. Then I would hope the Prime Minister would agree to sit down with Mr. Ignatieff, Mr. Duceppe, and Mr. Layton and say let's get a Canadian man or woman in there on an interim basis whose integrity no one is going to dispute. Let's get them in there to restore faith in the staff and to bring some order. It will be difficult, I think, for the existing board until longer-range decisions are made about changing board membership.