I was not, but I like them very much. I know them well. I have friends who've worked with them. Will Inboden and Mike Magan were both with me in government together in a prior administration. They're friends of mine, and they worked at the Legatum Center. They are not there any more. But the point is they do some very interesting work. Maybe you have a--
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