Let me put it this way to you. I would know your reaction, but I'll just put it out. It would be like sending me over to Africa to teach African corporations how to bargain with their workers. You wouldn't want me to do that because you would say I have a bias, and I would be giving them wrong....
We don't get funded from CIDA for teaching African workers how to advocate for themselves so that they can go to work in a safe environment and ensure that their lungs are checked for silicosis, and that they have safety glasses, and that they have the proper protection they need. Unfortunately, when we go and watch those operations—regardless of who the operator is—generally the standards are lower because they can be. It's that simple. Unless there's advocacy and people insisting on better standards, we have to go all the way back to what we had to learn five decades ago, in terms of health and safety, and teach African workers or Indonesian workers or any other workers how to advocate for themselves and advocate to their government for standards that will protect them.