Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to the witnesses. It's been an interesting hour so far. I appreciate very much the insight you've given us, the candour with which you've expressed some views. It's very helpful for us, and I hope the fact that this is a televised session of this committee will help Canadians understand and support the government and parliamentarians urging a change in direction in Ukraine. So thank you for making what was a long trip for many of you. I appreciate it very much.
I have three questions, if we have time. First, Ms. Hetmanchuk, you ran out of time. The chairman, I think, cut you off in a very brutal way. I thought it was terrible.