I think one of my colleagues alluded to India and the problems they had there with the farmers. One of the reasons was not just that they were poor and had more debt; one of the key reasons for suicide—there was an article in the The Economist about this—was that their land was destroyed. Yes, they could obtain money, but they bought too much chemical fertilizer and they ended up killing their soil at the end of it. They lost their land too, which is a key part of their lifestyle. I think that article talked about the importance of microfinancing.
The key thing is how, especially if you're with new countries and new philosophies.... You could give a guy chainsaw financing, but it's not very good if he's going to clear-cut. You can give a fisherman an outboard, but if he's going to get out there and just clean it out.... When you get into these countries with microfinancing, do you sit down with governments? Financing is key to how they're going to manage their resources. You know, you could destroy the resources if there are no checks and balances.
I guess that's my question, Mr. Reed. It's easy to go in there and say, “Okay, we have money and we're going to peel it out”, but unless you know what they're doing with this money.... The Conservatives alluded to not having shareholders, so it's easier to give money and there's not much accountability, but I think you also have a bigger responsibility in terms of what you're doing with the environment and what's being left. How does that play into your decision-making when you go into countries?