[Member speaks in Dutch]
Just for the benefit of everyone, I was just saying that I too have Dutch heritage, but I was born here.
I appreciate your testimony and I find it very interesting. There is something that needs to be stated, and we have to keep our eye on the ball, as we say here: to my knowledge, at least, governments—and, you may argue, possibly socialist governments or communist governments—have never produced one cent of wealth. It's private industry that does produce wealth.
In this country we have a grand tradition of extraction and mining. We are, I think, foremost in the world. We've proven that we're very good at this. We have a particular company, Talisman, that once was extracting oil in the Sudan. I'm sure you're aware of it.