—but dealing with the governments at hand, Botswana, I hear, is doing a fairly good job of getting the royalties from their mining and investing back into their communities. How do we create that bridge between new governments that are coming into democracy and encourage better governance in these countries so that the royalties from mining could be used for the public good?
Do you see examples? We can only ask our mining companies to do so much if they're embarking on this. Should we play a role in that as a government?