Mr. Bernard Funston at the Foreign Affairs and International Development Committee

I think I prefer the Norwegian one. The Norwegians are much better, I find, when I work with them on the English language than I am.

I think the ecosystem approach is closer to what we're getting at. We're looking at the ecosystems, but they're not watertight compartments. Of course, what do you do with ecosystem-based management when the actual impacts are from outside: transboundary pollutants and climate change? Those aren't things you manage in the ecosystem. You have to—