—to our position.
I appreciate your bringing up the case of the Ottawa landmine treaty and the convention there. I'll ask Christopher Ram to comment in a moment, if I could. I'm not aware, today, that landmines are being laid. As I understand, even the United States was prepared to sign the landmine treaty if we excluded the demilitarized zone in Korea. Having said that, regrettably, a number of countries continue to use cluster munitions. The United States, even in recent years—it stunned me—have used them in conflicts like Iraq and Afghanistan. Obviously, it's a given that cluster munitions are still used.