I would just add that this has to be seen under the umbrella of poverty and the injustice of poverty and the inequality of power associated with that at all levels. If we want to take a holistic approach, seeing it under that umbrella is really going to help us.
In the Village Savings and Loan Association program that we run in many countries, but in particular in Ethiopia, this is a platform that allows for economic empowerment of community members—not just women, not just men, not just girls, but the community. We know that is one of the most successful ways to empower the communities. In turn, if they are empowered and they have the ability to make different choices, and they have the income, maybe they won't take that child bride price. It's about looking at the root causes and the drivers of those inequalities in poverty. I think my colleagues are right that if we focus that too narrowly, people just may not choose to listen.