Yes.
The money being raised from within and coming from outside is going into various activities within the community that showcase their social welfare in the broader sense. Behind that activity is the ideology preached from the pulpit or within the corporate body of the institution, whether it's the mosque institution or the mosque-related school institution. That is the ideology we're talking about. You have this witness over here who is an imam. He's dressed in an imam's garment telling you that the problem that we are faced with that our country, the west, does not understand is the jurisprudence of Islam, whether it is Shiite or Sunni. The jurisprudence of Islam is a human creation; it's not the Koran. The Koran has to be interpreted. The jurisprudence of Islam takes us back to the 12th, 11th, and 10th century. It was a totally different world. To understand the Taliban, to understand ISIL, even to understand the Iranian you have to go back to the 12th and the 13th century.
We are spawning the 12th and the 13th century mentality right here inside a community. We are a postmodern society. We are in the 21st century. There is a schizophrenic cultural reality in the Arab-Muslim world.
May I have another minute, Mr. Chair?
The question the gentleman raised...and this is what I need to tell you, is every equation has two sides. We are focused on ISIL, Islam, radicalization, and so on. We have forgotten the side of the equation that is the west. We have lost the confidence and the values of the west. What is our value? What is it that we fought for and defended? The gentleman over there raised the question about containment and about what's happening in the Muslim world. What's happening in the Muslim world we do not understand because we have forgotten our own history.
This year is the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta. Two years from now we will be celebrating a 150th anniversary but it will mark the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther pinning the 95 theses in the church at Wittenberg. Our democracy, our secular values, our liberalism, did not emerge overnight. It was a long and often bloody struggle with revolutions, the guillotine, and decapitation. We are seeing in virtual time, in real time, our history played out. That's where we talk about containment. We cannot go into Pakistan. We cannot go into Saudi Arabia or Iran to tell them how to...they have to discover it.
I was born in India. There was 200 years of British rule in India before the division. My friend also thinks of himself as an Indian though I was born in India. We are the world's largest democracy. It happened as a result of a long historical process. Britain stood with India for 200 years. Do we have the courage to stand with the men and women in the Muslim world who are fighting for values that we understand?
Very quickly, to one final statement on whom we should support. We need to target it. For instance, we give hundreds of millions of dollars to countries like Bangladesh. This is foreign affairs and international development. Could you, dear honourable member, would you put a condition on the money that you put to Bangladesh that not one dollar will go to Bangladesh unless they respect the right of free speech and the rights of women?
We have this woman, Taslima Nasrin. She's running from country to country. She cannot find a place to live because the Islamists are hounding her, all because she wrote a book. Salman Rushdie was lucky that he was in England, that he was protected. We can do that. We can send a message. That's the historical message we have to send.