To follow up on that “it didn't happen” point, even in Ottawa when we had things happen on October 22, almost immediately something came out on Facebook with someone saying that no, it didn't happen, that somebody in Canada had made it all up. Well, I can guarantee that everybody in this room was there and of course it did happen.
That's the counter-messaging part that I think is really important. We have who knows how many homegrown jihadis in Canada. CSIS says they're tracking about 140, but you can guarantee there are many more than that. I think it is pretty effective, but is there anything we can do? Maybe it's a naive question, but the two guys who acted in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu and in Ottawa in October weren't members of ISIS, I'm sure. ISIS didn't know who they were, but they lay out this propaganda and they know they have live hand grenades sprinkled across the rest of the world that are going to go off at random. Of course, that fits their plan quite well.
Of the countermeasures you talked about, how aggressive can we get in this era of political correctness? We have communities in Canada, as you do in the U.S., that are particularly vulnerable. In my city of Edmonton, the Somali community is particularly vulnerable. There are three members of the Edmonton Somali community who were recently killed over there and that caused some alarm. How do we get into those communities that we know are vulnerable without being accused of being politically incorrect with the pre-emptive counter-messaging?