I would like to complete my answer because I can link your question with what Mrs. Brown was asking me earlier on what we do to try to influence. We have national offices in eight countries. We have an office in Washington, and we do try to convince our American friends to ratify the Oslo accord and the Ottawa convention as well. They are reticent to do that. They have shown that they are not using submunitions and haven't for six to eight years already. I think the major countries are not the ones that are using them right now.
What is really a concern for us are the countries that are using them right now, like Libya and Syria, as mentioned by my colleague. Also, the other concern is that the United States has used these submunitions in the past and they are still a heritage in Cambodia, in Laos. Thirty years later, those countries are still polluted by those weapons. We can only try to move them, but I think there might be economic interests behind that. By endorsing it in our Canadian law, by sending signals, for instance by funding and adding those financial elements to the law, I think we can signal to our friends and maybe be strong, as Monsieur Garneau was mentioning, and be brave, and show the world that we need to take a lead in that.
Our perspective, as Jérôme was mentioning, is really from seeing the victims and trying to help them through. We can only bring them to the table, have them testify, tell how their lives are being affected, and hope that those people will have the compassion to ratify, sign, and go as far as they can within the spirit of the convention.