Mr. Hawn, let me say that my trip to Afghanistan with you was one of those things I will remember for a long time.
First of all, I think the more people who can be encouraged to participate in trusted traveller programs, the better. We have to make it easier for people to participate.
There have been problems. There aren't enough people to process them. I'm no longer the ambassador, so I can say this. One of the things I always found mystifying was why someone had to be interviewed by both a CBSA and a CBP person. We could probably trust one or the other. A friend of mine in Chicago wanted to participate in the NEXUS program. He was told to go to Toronto on February 18 for his interview. He said that he had no intention of being in Toronto on February 18, so he just never did it. We have to make it easier. If we just do some common-sense things, we can make it easier.
On your question of how far we can go, one of the things I was sometimes asked, and probably a number of you have been asked, was this. You can go to Europe and you can drive from France to Germany—two countries that have a somewhat more difficult historic relationship than ours have—and you don't have to slow down. Why can't we do that?
My answer is that France and Germany have had a partial surrender of their sovereignty. There are common immigration standards. Once you're in one, you're in all. One of the things I haven't heard a whole lot, in Canada or in the United States, is that, somehow or other, one of us wants to cede to the other decisions as to who gets into their country. We can go a lot farther, but I'm not sure we're going to go all the way at any point in the near future.