Good morning. Thank you very much for being here.
Professor Applebaum, I would like to start with you.
You wrote a recent article where you said hypocrisy links the populists. I agree to some extent, but you mentioned and referenced Babis of the Czech Republic, where he has a holding company and employs foreigners. You talked about Orban running a golden visa program. You talked about Kaczynski, who has controlled a company. These people came into power and they aggregated all these interests, but there must be another central theme as to why there is all this xenophobia. Politically, if you look at, for example, Orban, to rail against immigrants, he doesn't have as many immigrants in his country.
What is the central theme circulating amongst them to make sure or to espouse a certain policy when, as Mr. Pankowski said, there's not even that much immigration in Poland? That becomes a central theme when they don't have that many immigrants. They're still able to win elections because of it.