I very much agree with what Mr. Genser said. If you look at the Ukraine-related sanctions, the United States and, I believe, Canada and the European Union have put individuals on the sanctions list for contributing to or being a part of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, of the illegal annexation of Crimea. In a few cases, members of the Russian parliament have been put on the sanctions list because they have played a key role.
Take the illegal annexation of Crimea. That is not the murder of an individual and it's not mass torture, but it is the violation of one of the foundations of the nation-state concepts of sovereignty and territorial integrity, and Russia is the first country in Europe since the end of World War II to forcibly annex territory from another country. I do agree that action required a response both on a larger level involving certain entities and sectors and on an individual level.
I would take it one step further. The European Union has sanctioned Dmitry Kiselev, who is the head of RT, the scurrilous propaganda network of Russia. He has been put on there not because he's a journalist. He's not a journalist. He's a propagandizing, hate-mongering individual who helps create a climate in which the murder of Boris Nemtsov is allowed, in which he talks about reducing the United States to radioactive ash.
I would say you should do what we used to call The Washington Post test. If you would not want to have your picture taken with somebody and have that picture splashed on the front page of The Washington Post, that person's probably somebody you should look at for sanctions. That's not to say that all bad folks should be on the list; we have limited resources to enforce and implement these sanctions. However, going after some to send signals that the kinds of activities they've engaged in are sanctionable, I think, is extremely important.