Just on the general atmosphere, I think the context of whether Canada should take that kind of approach is.... Personally, I was in Rome when the Rome Statute was adopted, creating the International Criminal Court. I remember the great enthusiasm, and we saw ratification in a shockingly short period of time. We've had great highs with the ICC. Now we're going through a patch where there's been some withdrawals, but we look at it as being very long term. It's a permanent institution.
International criminal justice is always going to have its ups and downs. That's the general perspective. I think that's the same with multilateralism in the area of human rights as well: you're going to have people pulling back, people going forward, states changing.
For me, it's all about Canada having the policy in place and having the flexibility to be able to do it when the situation arises. I think it's really good policy to have legislation, sound legislation. Then it becomes a choice of using it when the situations are good, and maybe you can get an alliance in certain circumstances.
I think it's all about having it in place. Then we ride through the bad times and get to the better times, and we can use the legislation in that manner.