I was saying that getting ODA where it needs to be has significant challenges, as we found out, including the difficulty in accessing local players on the ground who have the ability to get the money where it needs to go. My colleague MP Aubin raised risk aversion. There are other experiences of using this type of approach. Other countries are doing it. Risk aversion, whether it's in areas coming out of conflict or in areas where local actors are hard to access, is a problem in getting the money where it needs to be.
How does the private sector, in your experience, react to these challenges? Is this a more effective way than ODA to meet those needs, or does it run up against the same walls?