Ports, especially the Port of Vancouver where thermal coal goes, which she was referring to, are multi-use ports. They handle a variety of bulk cargoes, as well as container traffic, as well as the cruises I talked about. On the cargo side, if there's a drop in any one type of cargo, the port and its supply chain partners and its business partners would be looking to augment with other types of cargo, whether increased container traffic or increased bulk in other capacities.
On May 30th, 2017. See this statement in context.