Maybe you don't want to comment on this, but I think that's the situation of Mr. Celil, who was taken from Uzbekistan to China.
It is striking to me—and I will just briefly editorialize—that we can speak about a country that is improving and yet is still not allowing consular access to Canadian citizens. They're clearly out of step with their international obligations, yet we're pursuing other aspects of the relationship.
I want to ask about ransoms, and I want to clarify what Mr. Gwozdecky said. What I heard you say was that there isn't any empirical evidence that the decision to pay ransoms increases the probability of subsequent abduction. You said that people hypothesize based on the intuitive logic of the situation that maybe paying ransoms negatively contribute, but there's no empirical evidence.
Did I understand what you were saying on that point?