First of all, human rights are one of our key priorities in many different ways, not only because we believe deeply in human rights, but because by protecting human rights of people, particularly key affected populations, marginalized populations, men who have sex with men, commercial sex workers, migrants, many other groups that are sometimes criminalized.... If they don't have access to health services, we cannot achieve our goal. Human rights and public health go hand in hand, and that is our principle.
Then there's the particular challenge that you mentioned in countries that are either undergoing civil war or are in the post-civil war phase. Yemen is one extreme example of where we are beyond solutions, but that's rare; normally we do find solutions. We have the flexibility to work with partners who can still access, even in the most difficult situations.... Let's say we work closely with the Red Cross or others, and provide our grants to them. That enables us to work in those regions.
Quite an interesting example is the Democratic Republic of Congo. It's a huge country, by the way, with some of the highest disease burdens in the world, and our programs are working moderately or relatively well. We are working there mainly through faith-based organizations. It is the churches and faith-based organizations that run many of the clinics. The government hardly exists in many parts of DRC. That doesn't matter. As long as we find partners with which we can work, mainly the churches and the faith organizations in DRC, we achieve very good results. The coverage with bed nets and malaria as well as HIV interventions in DRC is surprisingly good. The audit by our AG has found very good results.
Burundi is another example of where we continue to work, and one very important aspect is that we have these constant migration flows now.