I want to continue by introducing our witnesses. I'm looking to see if they have shown up on the video. So far, they haven't. In front of us is Mr. de Kerckhove, a fellow and lecturer in the graduate school of public and international affairs at the University of Ottawa.
We also have Hugh Stephens, distinguished fellow of the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada, by video conference from Victoria, and Sarah Kutulakos, executive director of the Canada China Business Council.
I'll start with the Canada China Business Council, unless people have decided amongst themselves who is starting. Why don't we start with the Canada China Business Council, and Ms. Kutulakos?
Can the people on the video conferencing hear us here in Ottawa?