With respect to the third vice-chair position, my understanding is that there has not been consistency about this. Obviously, with Canada-China we do have that. It is a special committee and there are different rules that apply to a special committee. My understanding is that the financial arrangements are such that there is compensation for the chair and for first and second vice-chairs, but there would not be compensation available for a third vice-chair.
My concern is that we should have consistency among the standing committees on this. Again, Garnett will be surprised that I'm sounding like a fundamentalist, but I think the Standing Orders are there and should be respected. My understanding is, and I could be corrected, that the Board of Internal Economy did not add any more financial resources for a third vice-chair. I know it's been brought up at a couple of the committees, but not all of the committees, so I think there's an inconsistency.
That doesn't mean we don't want Mr. Harris's full participation all the time. However, I think calling it a vice-chair would be premature, in my personal opinion.