In terms of the metrics, I know that in the previous panel there had been a discussion around the rejections. Where our head is at is a bit more on the processing times and the service standards, because even if you're late but still with a favourable decision, you still run into reputational risks and penalties. The metric we're looking at is a bit different from the one the member cited.
In terms of the role of an outside panel, I think we would want to see a bit more detail as to what that mandate would be. We fully agree with what's been said earlier, which is that such a panel should not become an outsourced body for decisions on individual applications, but certainly, if there's a willingness to bring folks together to talk about the system as a whole, then that could be something that is worth exploring, again [Technical difficulty—Editor] seeing the details.