Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I would begin by thanking Mr. Knutson for his public service. It's good to see you again. Thank you for that.
I want to go to Ms. Cianfarani, and maybe Mr. Mueller.
Without having a crystal ball, the government makes decisions on export permits to the best of its ability based on the facts it has at play. We are really discussing a moment in time with respect to export permits that were given to a company to sell to Turkey, which were then used inappropriately and were stopped. There was a suspension and then a cancellation. This shows that the system, by and large, works—imperfectly, but by and large it does.
When we talk about the delays in the system, there is a concept of substantial risk. If it were a matter of absolutely no risk, or a hint of a risk, that system would be easy, but with substantial risk, it takes some effort to determine that. I think we are working that out with industry. I know that industry has had the chance to meet with Minister Garneau. I believe you know that he has asked the officials to improve the efficiency of the system. Do you have suggestions for improving the efficiency of the system while maintaining human rights at the core and the concept of substantial risk? That's the kind of dilemma we're in.