Evidence of meeting #6 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was pandemic.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Barbara Grantham  President and Chief Executive Officer, CARE Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Erica Pereira
Joe Belliveau  Executive Director, Doctors Without Borders
Conrad Sauvé  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Red Cross
Jason Nickerson  Humanitarian Affairs Advisor, Doctors Without Borders
Maxime Michel  Head of Humanitarian and Resilience Programs, CARE Canada
Kelsey Lemon  Senior Director, Canadian Red Cross
Bob Rae  Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Canada to the United Nations (UN) in New York, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Mark Lowcock  Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator, United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs
David Beasley  Executive Director, World Food Programme

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Honourable members, welcome to the sixth meeting of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development.

Pursuant to the order of reference of October 22, 2020, the committee will proceed to study the vulnerabilities created and exacerbated by COVID-19 in crisis- and conflict-affected areas.

Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, and it is also the second meeting as part of a House of Commons pilot project for webinars. As a reminder, staff will be non-active participants only and can therefore only view the meeting in gallery view. I remind all that photos and screenshots are prohibited.

Thank you to the witnesses for taking part in this pilot project. I hope it's a positive experience for them.

To ensure an orderly meeting, I would encourage all participants to mute their microphones when they are not speaking and address all comments through the chair. When you have 30 seconds left in your questioning or your speaking time, I will signal you with this yellow sheet of paper.

Interpretation is available through the globe icon at the bottom of your screen.

Now, I would like to welcome our first panel.

From CARE Canada, we have Barbara Grantham, president and chief executive officer, and Maxime Michel, head of humanitarian and resilience programs.

From Doctors Without Borders, we have Jason Nickerson, humanitarian affairs adviser, and Joe Belliveau, executive director.

From the Canadian Red Cross, we have Conrad Sauvé, president and chief executive officer.

We also have Kelsey Lemon, senior director, global programs.

Ms. Grantham, I will ask you to open the discussion this afternoon with a five-minute round of prepared remarks. Thank you so much.

Ms. Grantham, the floor is yours for five minutes.

3:35 p.m.

Barbara Grantham President and Chief Executive Officer, CARE Canada

Thank you very much.

Good afternoon, everyone.

I think all of us know that COVID-19 outbreaks are devastating in every context, but they will not be anywhere more profound than for the two billion people who are living in fragile and conflict-affected settings around the world.

In the past, CARE has responded to public health emergencies caused by the Zika, Ebola and West Nile viruses. We have also carried out a rapid gender analysis on the impacts of COVID-19 in nearly 40 countries and regions since March.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

I have a point of order.

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NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

We can't hear the translation, unfortunately.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Thank you very much, Ms. McPherson.

Let's see if we can fix this quickly or if there's a persistent problem.

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The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Erica Pereira

Ms. Grantham, when you speak in English, would it be possible for you to toggle your interpretation button on the bottom to English as well?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CARE Canada

Barbara Grantham

It is on English. I can turn it off, if you'd like.

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The Clerk

Sure, we can give that a try.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Go ahead, Ms. Grantham. Let's see if that works.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CARE Canada

Barbara Grantham

Should I start again, or should I carry on?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

It's at your discretion.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CARE Canada

Barbara Grantham

Will I still have my five minutes?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Yes, you will.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, CARE Canada

Barbara Grantham

Okay, thank you.

Thanks, everyone. I apologize for the technology glitches at the start.

Thank you for having us today.

COVID-19 outbreaks are devastating in every context at this time, but nowhere will they be more profound than for the two billion people who are living in fragile and conflict-affected settings around the world.

In the past, CARE has responded to public health emergencies caused by the Zika, Ebola and West Nile viruses. We have also carried out a rapid gender analysis on the impacts of COVID-19 in nearly 40 countries and regions since March.

These analyses bring three key messages into focus. First, COVID-19 outbreaks have aggravated existing vulnerabilities, particularly for women and girls. Second, the secondary impacts—economic and social—can be even more devastating than the pandemic itself. Third, the after-effects will reverberate for years to come.

I'd like to highlight three key areas in particular need of attention. The first is health care. As health care resources are channelled into COVID-19, other areas are being neglected. Access to sexual and reproductive health services, including clean and safe deliveries, contraceptives, and pre- and post-natal care are among the worst casualties. For example, 73% of women surveyed by CARE in Afghanistan say they now have no access to family planning.

The second is the gender-based violence “shadow pandemic”. Quarantine measures have trapped many women with their abusers. The UN estimates that for every three months that lockdown measures continue, an additional 15 million gender-based cases of violence could occur. An additional 13 million child marriages may take place. Fragile and conflict-affected states are experiencing the worst increases. Venezuela, for example, reported a 65% increase in femicides between April 2019 and April 2020. Zimbabwe's national gender-based violence hotline reported a 70% increase over their pre-lockdown trends. Sadly, Somalia has seen a rapid rise in female genital mutilation.

The third is the hunger pandemic. Hunger hot spots are seeing exponential rises in food crises. Today, four countries are bordering on famine: the DRC, Nigeria, South Sudan and Yemen. Because women and girls play a greater role in the production, procurement and preparation of food, but tend to eat last and least when food is scarce, they face a much greater risk of hunger and malnutrition.

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Ms. Grantham, I'm sorry. Can I interrupt for one second and just ask you, at the request of the interpretation team, to raise your mike ever so slightly? Just bring it up towards your nose. That may reduce some of the breath pop that we're getting. Let's see if that works.

Thank you very much.

3:35 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CARE Canada

Barbara Grantham

Canadian NGOs have pivoted to respond to this pandemic. Thanks to flexibility from Global Affairs Canada and other donors, we are adapting our existing programs to respond. We have replaced cash-for-work programs with unconditional cash transfers through cellphones. We're providing soap vouchers and more handwashing stations, and we're changing how we distribute supplies to ensure safe physical distancing.

Most importantly, we're asking women what they want. The South Sudanese refugees we are working with in Uganda are now making new income by selling us masks. We give these masks to survivors of gender-based violence and to women with high-risk pregnancies, so they can safely access the support they need.

The world needs Canada to show leadership, and Canada's feminist humanitarian action policy provides the framework for action.

We'd like to offer three recommendations today.

The first is to focus on underserved needs. We need to fill gaps in essential, underfunded and diverted services, including gender-based violence and sexual and reproductive health.

The second is to reach the hardest to reach without delay. So far, international donors have directed just 1.5% of their funding to local and national NGOs. Donors have committed to the grand bargain, channelling at least 25% of humanitarian funding to local organizations, and now particularly to women and girls' organizations. This needs to happen quickly, before the crisis gets worse and before these local organizations capable of doing this work disappear.

The third is to help humanitarian organizations do what we do best. This entails adapting funding mechanisms and direction and control provisions to allow for more predictable, transparent and flexible funding through NGOs and local actors. A bill to be tabled soon in the other place by Senator Omidvar would enable more impactful, timely and local-level responses, and free up millions of dollars that are currently tied up in program administration.

Thank you for inviting us today.

We would be pleased to answer your questions.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Thank you, Ms. Grantham.

I will now turn the floor over to the team from Doctors Without Borders.

Mr. Nickerson and Mr. Belliveau, you have the floor for five minutes.

3:40 p.m.

Joe Belliveau Executive Director, Doctors Without Borders

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to the committee for the opportunity to present here today.

Médecins Sans Frontières, or MSF as we are commonly known, is an international medical humanitarian organization that provides impartial medical assistance to people in more than 70 countries. We deliver essential health services in some of the world's most complex environments, and we are no stranger to public health emergencies.

From the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, our operational response has been swift and comprehensive. Our operations have prioritized the protection of our staff around the world, focused our COVID-19 activities on the most vulnerable people and ensured the continuity of the medical care that we provide.

There is too often a tendency to focus on the emergency that is immediately in front of us—in this case, COVID-19—to the neglect of other health services. We have worked hard to make sure that all of our field teams are prepared to respond to and prevent COVID-19 cases, but also to respond to the additional needs and gaps that are being created or exacerbated as a result of the pandemic.

In the more than 70 countries where MSF is responding to emergencies, we focused on closing gaps in the COVID response: ensuring staff protection and infection prevention and control practices in hospitals and clinics; providing health promotion; responding to COVID in close settings such as camps and prisons; providing care for moderate, severe and critically ill patients who require more advanced interventions like oxygen therapy or a ventilator; and responding to the collateral health effects that have been created by the pandemic.

I want to focus on these collateral effects, because they often take place outside of the full view of the pandemic. A significant lesson from the West Africa Ebola outbreak of 2014-16 is that the biggest threat to women's and girls' lives was not the Ebola virus, but the shutdown of routine health services and people's fear of going to health facilities where they could get infected. Thousands more lives were lost when safe delivery, neonatal and family planning services became inaccessible due to the outbreak. Right now, we are witnessing the same dynamic on a much larger scale.

In places such as Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Colombia, Central African Republic and elsewhere, women and girls face challenges related not only to COVID-19 but also to closures and cuts to sexual and reproductive health services; movement restrictions including travel bans, lockdowns and curfews; global supply chain disruptions; and many other ripple effects that have been created by the pandemic.

Everyday health needs do not go away in the face of the pandemic. People continue to need access to emergency obstetric care to manage complicated deliveries. People need access to anti-malarials to prevent and treat malaria. Children need routine vaccinations to prevent measles, polio and other diseases. Antiretroviral therapies need to be continued for people living with HIV. The list goes on and on.

Yet these health services are exactly what we are seeing disrupted. Vector control spraying to reduce the mosquito population to control malaria hasn't been done, leading to a rise in malaria cases in some of our projects in South Sudan. The number of infections there was so high that our teams didn't delay treatment while waiting for confirmed tests, since over 80% of our patients tested positive. Elsewhere, routine vaccination campaigns in many countries have been delayed. In Mosul, Iraq, the main government hospital was repurposed as a COVID-19 treatment centre and MSF started seeing much higher numbers of pregnant women coming in for delivery care.

It is critical, especially in the midst of this pandemic, that the Canadian government continue to protect humanitarian responses in emergencies around the world by continuing to provide international assistance funding, not only to the response to COVID but to maintain emergency and essential health services generally. Moreover, Canada needs to continue to advocate for humanitarian access in an increasingly complex and highly regulated world where permissions to enter or transit through countries are complicated by entry and exit requirements, fewer international flights and other barriers. To that end, we're grateful for the support that the Canadian government has provided in overcoming some of these access barriers.

The protected status of independent humanitarian assistance needs to continue to be assured, demonstrating day in and day out that our commitment to providing independent, impartial and neutral humanitarian assistance is the only way our teams can access patients and communities in conflicts, across front lines.

The early waves of COVID may not have hit communities where MSF is present as badly as we had feared, but the pandemic is far from over. The ripple effects continue to be felt. Global demand for PPE and other medical products remains high and is distorting price and availability. Significant questions remain about how and when COVID-19 vaccines will reach people in conflict settings, refugee camps and areas where humanitarian access is difficult.

What is clear is that a high level of vigilance is needed to prepare for and respond to COVID cases while also ensuring that routine health needs do not go unmet and we don't lose sight of everyday emergencies.

As just one example, yesterday in the Democratic Republic of the Congo the 11th Ebola outbreak was declared over. For much of this year, the country was responding to two Ebola outbreaks, the largest measles epidemic in the world, and COVID-19, all in a country that has been affected by armed conflict and other protracted humanitarian crises for decades.

We look forward to your questions, and you can contact either Jason Nickerson or me through the committee clerk, if you wish.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Thank you very much, Mr. Belliveau.

We will now go to the Canadian Red Cross.

Mr. Sauvé and Ms. Lemon, you have five minutes. Please go ahead.

3:45 p.m.

Conrad Sauvé President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Red Cross

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

It's a pleasure talking to the committee today. I'm not going to repeat what has been already said in terms of the compounded challenges that humanitarian organizations are facing with the impact of COVID globally. Of course, we're dealing with more isolated communities cut off from their traditional support systems. Protective equipment and training are essential, and we're at a time when we have limited access to our global surge tools.

We're particularly concerned, of course, that the pandemic has not stopped natural disasters and conflict, so we're concerned again about the compounded effect of both COVID and ongoing emergencies.

Today I'm going to insist on two aspects: the necessity to support local actors and to grow our global response tools. Both aspects of that response are key.

I will say a few words about the Red Cross and its capacity.

The Canadian Red Cross is a member of an international network of 192 national societies of the Red Cross and the Red Crescent, including the International Committee of the Red Cross. That gives us unique access to every location on the planet, even the most remote areas affected by conflict.

Among the most important lessons learned is that COVID-19 has highlighted and accelerated the need for localization. There has been a lot of talk in the past few years about localization and its importance to the grand bargain and so on, but at the end of the day, we need to strengthen the capacity of local organizations where they are trusted, have access and are there to stay in the response.

Thanks to the support of the Canadian government, we have witnessed first-hand the value of these investments in strengthening the capacity of local actors in a number of countries. One of our recommendations here is that as part of the grand bargain commitment to localization, Canada should continue to make investments in strengthening the capacity of local actors.

One of the challenges is that.... We know the value of local capacity. We know the response needs to be local, but the funding mechanisms don't recognize that. It's either an emergency or it's development, but building the capacity of a local Red Cross is not an area that's covered, so it's an essential part.

The second concerns the importance of a global response system, once again, thanks to the support of the Canadian government.

Through its response teams and mobile field hospitals, the Canadian Red Cross has provided responses in 55 countries. We responded to the Ebola and cholera epidemics. We are currently providing a response in more than 150 long-term care centres in Canada. We also provided support for Canadian travellers in isolation, and I would like to thank Doctors Without Borders for their help with that. All of that work is possible thanks to the expertise we have gained internationally.

The demand for emergency response and local infrastructure support will continue in the years ahead. We therefore recommend that Canada continue to invest in surge capacity and mobile field hospital capacity so that we can respond in emergencies.

In closing, there are two.... We know that unfortunately the pandemic was predicted in some ways, or predictable. We know we're going into an environment of more challenges related to disruptive climate events as well as epidemics, so the need is to look at the tools we have and the importance, again, of strengthening and investing in our local capacity, which is key. We don't have those tools presently in the tool box; it's not a part that's recognized, and I have a number of examples of how we strengthen that capacity. The second part, of course, is our surge.

On that, I will be there with my colleague to answer questions.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sven Spengemann

Thank you very much, Mr. Sauvé.

We will now go to our first round of questions. These are six-minute questions by four members of the committee.

The first of these goes to Mr. Morantz, please.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Marty Morantz Conservative Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I want to thank all of you for being here today under what we recognize as very difficult circumstances. I'm impressed by the consistency in all of your presentations over the essentially collateral vulnerabilities that you're dealing with while the focus is on the pandemic. I think that's a message that really is very important for this committee to consider. Thank you for that.

I want to start with Mr. Belliveau, about vaccines.

Just a week ago, your organization released a press release calling on governments to make the COVID-19 vaccine licensing agreements public, noting that these agreements remain cloaked in secrecy despite unprecedented levels of public funding. To what extent, if at all, is your organization concerned that these licensing agreements with pharmaceutical companies could complicate efforts to deliver COVID-19 vaccines to vulnerable populations in developing countries?

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Executive Director, Doctors Without Borders

Joe Belliveau

Thanks a lot for that question. We have the expert on that with us here today, Jason Nickerson. I'm going to have him answer that.

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Conservative

Marty Morantz Conservative Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB

Sure.

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Dr. Jason Nickerson Humanitarian Affairs Advisor, Doctors Without Borders

Yes, since the beginning of the pandemic, we've been pushing for greater transparency in these licensing agreements. There are a number of reasons behind that.

I'll just jump to the point here and say that we are a medical care provider that is concerned about how vaccines are going to be accessed by our teams as well as by the health systems where we work. We know that there is more demand than there is likely to be supply. The way of closing that gap is likely by having more of these licensing agreements to effectively be able to scale up manufacturing by other quality-assured vaccine manufacturers around the world.

Historically, it's very difficult to know where these licensing agreements have been struck, not just for vaccines and not just for COVID products, but I'm speaking more generally about pharmaceuticals. It becomes very difficult to know what the diversity of manufacturers is going to be and what the supply is going to look like down the line, particularly for new products that are coming on to the market.

Really, our concern here is born out of asking the very basic question, “Is there going to be sufficient supply to meet global demand?” I think that available evidence suggests that the answer is likely to be no. Demand is very high, and supply is quite low.

The second piece, of course, is making sure that these vaccines are going to be affordable.

You mentioned public funding. There's a tremendous amount of public funding, including from the Canadian government, that has gone into supporting the development of these vaccines. We think that that creates a responsibility on the part of pharmaceutical companies to price these affordably, to recognize that the public has paid to develop them.