Yes.
Climate finance is just a fancy way of keeping in place an already not-fit-for-purpose international financial system that has always been disproportionately supportive of the global north, which has extractive states that have developed on the backs of states that have been victimized by colonial legacies. All of those things are part of the climate crisis today. Looking at climate change as just an environmental factor was already a massive failure, because we lost about 30 years. I think we often focus on the fact that we had a lot of deniers or naysayers who didn't grab the science. We also didn't grab people who understood intersectionality or people who understood this as a human issue, a justice issue and a human rights issue.
If we're going to talk about solutions, we have to talk about solutions that are fit for purpose. How do you actually deal with the climate crisis? How do you deal with the fact that you can't continue to provide loans to people who...? As I said, Africa as a whole gets less than 4% for 54 states. Is it a matter of justice to now ask Africa to go into further debt?
I'll also say, because of some of the things—