I'll tell you why. In conversations with CSOs, I've been told it takes up to 19. The reason I raise this is that the Senate produced a report on diplomacy. Granted, it was more targeted at the foreign service, which isn't exactly this department, but the criticism I have heard of DFATD and the international development regime has been that through past cost-cutting exercises, the bottom has been trimmed but not so much the top.
I understand there are some efforts being made to address that. Can you speak to those?