Evidence of meeting #21 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Françoise Vanni  Director, External Relations and Communications, Global Fund To Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Erica Pereira

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

I think I'd like to be part of the discussion after spending hours working on this motion.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

I think I had my hand up before the other member.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

It's denied, so it's over.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

We do not have unanimous consent.

Mr. Zuberi, you have the floor.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Thank you for recognizing me, Mr. Chair.

Very briefly, I would just suggest that all the parties speak in the interim before the next meeting to please iron this out. Although I do appreciate the procedural learning that's happening for yours truly right here right now—it's very, very useful and informative—I think we can all agree—or almost all of us—that we want to get to the substantive conversation.

I'll leave it at that. I'm pleading that parties speak with each other and iron this out so we can get to the substantive stuff we want to address in this committee.

Thank you.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Thank you, Mr. Zuberi.

There are several more individuals who would like to take the floor. However, having advised everyone that we only have this room available until 5:50, I'm afraid I'm going to have to suspend this meeting because it is now past 5:50.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Mr. Chair, would you grant an intervention unrelated to this particular topic addressed to the analysts for the benefit of all members? I have a question for the analysts.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Absolutely.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I believe the analysts were tasked with preparing a statement that we have received on Ukraine. I had indicated many meetings ago that I had comments on that statement. Would the chair and members be amenable to my circulating those comments by email to everyone so that we can move our work forward on that statement? Other members are free to respond by email with their own comments.

I'm simply trying to move our work forward, Mr. Chair.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

I have spoken with the analysts and clerk, and they are advising that if anyone has any comments or would like to make any changes to the statement, they should do so by end of business on Monday.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Mr. Chair, could we do that with the vaccine equity draft as well?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

On the vaccine equity issue, the question is, when are we going to study that report? I don't know that we want to set the same deadline for amendments on both the statement and the study. I guess it comes down to which ones we're planning on studying first and then setting deadlines that are proportionate and appropriate in relation to those dates.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

On that specific issue, Ms. McPherson, I'll have to consult with the vice-chairs and we'll get back to you.

It now being 5:55 p.m., the meeting stands suspended.

Thank you.

[The meeting was suspended at 5:55 p.m., Thursday, June 2]

[The meeting resumed at 11:03 a.m., Monday, June 6]

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

I call the meeting to order.

Welcome back, everyone, to meeting number 21 of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development. Today, we will be continuing the discussion that began on Monday, May 16, 2022.

As always, interpretation is available through the globe icon at the bottom of your screen. For members participating in person, keep in mind the Board of Internal Economy's guidelines for mask use and health protocols.

Before speaking, I would like to remind all members to please wait until they are recognized by name. When speaking, please speak slowly and clearly. When you are not speaking, your mike should be on mute. I would remind members that all comments should be addressed through the chair.

Before we resume debate, I want to apprise all members, given our interest in developments in Ukraine, that we have received notification that two members from the Ukrainian parliament will be visiting Ottawa. They have indicated, should the members agree, that they would like to appear before this committee. That would be on June 13, which is next Monday. It would start at 10 a.m. and would go until 12. The two members who have written to us are Ms. Yevheniya Kravchuk and Mr. Rustem Umerov. Members can decide at some point whether they think it would be a good idea to once again hear from Ukrainian parliamentarians.

Yes, Ms. Bendayan.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, would we be deciding that now? Are you going to vote? How would you like the committee to make that decision?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

If there is unanimous consent, we can vote on that.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

We agree.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Does everyone agree?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

We certainly agree, yes.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Okay, great. That's good to hear. We will take note of that.

Thank you, Ms. Bendayan.

If we can resume debate, Ms. Bendayan, the floor is yours.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Mr. Chair, can you clarify what we are resuming debate on?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

We are resuming debate on Mr. Genuis's amendment to the motion.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

I believe that we agreed on an amendment that we had been debating for some time. Are we moving to a new amendment by Mr. Genuis?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Let's ask the clerk to read the amendment.

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, the amendment is:

That the words “and that this study not take place until after the completion of the committee's studies on Ukraine, vaccine equity and Taiwan, as well as studies on legislation sent from the House of Commons; and further that it not take place until the subcommittee on agenda and procedure submits a report prescribing the manner in which the study is to proceed;” be inserted between the words “rights globally;” and the words “and that the committee reports its findings to the House”