Well, it's a fifth dimension; it's speculation, but I do believe that the reduction of the flow of gas in Nord Stream 1 would have been entirely blamed on the sanctions of the G7 and the EU against Russia. We're fighting a hybrid war. It's a conventional war that Ukraine suffers and fights very, very bravely, but we're also in a war on energy, we're in a war on food supplies and we're in a disinformation war. I think our point of view was that we would have lost significantly in the disinformation war if that turbine had not been able to be delivered. Right now, this turbine sits in Germany and it is very clear that it was an excuse, a pretext, because Gazprom is not picking it up and they're inventing very strange excuses for not doing so.
On August 4th, 2022. See this statement in context.