Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I think it's really important to underline again that the turbine issue is a question of sanctions. It's a question of whether we have a “Swiss cheese” sanctions regime where exceptions are made based on local calculations of economic interests, or whether we have a consistent sanctions regime. This is not an incidental issue. This is not angels dancing on the head of a pin.
This is really, really important. The level and nature of our sanctions determine the capacity of the Russian army to wage war, and that's why we need a credible and consistent sanctions regime. That's why we need to study the sanctions regime. There are, of course, other aspects to this. This is a core issue for Ukraine. It is a core issue in the Canada-Ukraine relationship that we have consistent sanctions, and a key question in that dynamic is the turbine issue.
I think we have a few different things being said. I agree with Mr. Bergeron that, in some way or another, this needs to be brought to a conclusion, with a concrete recommendation. I get the impression that some members of the government would rather gloss over the recommendation piece of this and just move straight on to discussing other issues related to Ukraine. I think we owe it to Parliament and to the people who sent us here to answer the core question that we sought to answer in our hearings, which is whether or not the permit should be revoked.
In terms of how many more meetings, again, it's whatever other members want in terms of the number additional meetings, but I think hearing from Siemens is important. I think we want to hear from the minister again, clearly, but that's about the situation in Ukraine more broadly. I hope that we are able to draft a report that, according to Ms. McPherson's amendment, would cover the broader situation, not just the turbine issue.
Again, if members think they want to further adjust some of these numbers, they can propose an amendment or a subamendment. The goal of this motion is to bring this study to a reasonable conclusion, to answer the question that we sought to answer, and then, by all means, to be able to move on to other issues in the context of the Ukraine situation. But again, sanctions, and the turbines as part of that sanctions debate, are at the very core of the question of how Russia is funding its war machine and how we can interrupt that funding.