Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Maybe there is a solution to this, because I know everybody on this committee does want to continue the work we are doing with regard to Ukraine. When we talk about studying Ukraine, that is a very big topic, perhaps too big to call this just a study on Ukraine.
Maybe what we could do is look at the motion Mr. Genuis has brought forward and say that perhaps we could have one more meeting that would include testimony from some of the witnesses he's recommending, and that perhaps a report could be issued, not a report that includes a recommendation to revoke the permit but rather a larger report that illustrates some of our findings from testimony throughout our study on Ukraine. As Ms. Bendayan has mentioned, we have not had a report, so perhaps it could be a larger report that also includes the findings from our testimony on the turbines and the waiver.
Then I think it would be very useful to include in our study on Ukraine some of those areas that we think are most pressing. In Mr. Genuis's motion, he does mention the sanctions regime. I've read into the record my motion from May for us to look more closely at the sanctions regime. I think that would be part of it, to be able to look at some of the things that are changing right now—the nuclear threats we're seeing out of Russia, the increase in troops, all of these things that are so important.
I think there is a way for us to go forward such that we meet the needs of all members of the committee to continue to focus and continue to study all aspects of what's happening in Ukraine. What I would suggest is that instead of a draft report that includes a recommendation to immediately revoke the permit, we would instruct staff to prepare a draft report that covers the findings of all testimony we've heard, including that with regard to the sanctions waiver, and not have it be quite so specific. Then it would include “conduct a study of the Canadian sanctions regime in general with details to be defined later”. I don't know the wording. I'm not very good at this. You all can manage it. Our analysts are much better
The other piece I want to highlight on that is that perhaps we should add here the desire of the committee to travel. We did talk about the idea of being able to go to Ukraine. The UCC has asked that this committee go to Ukraine. I also think that it would be vital that we include the minister and Global Affairs Canada to get an update because things have changed so much.
I would be supportive of that portion as well.