Evidence of meeting #54 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was abortion.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Beth Woroniuk  Vice-President, Policy, Equality Fund
Lesia Vasylenko  Member of Parliament, Parliament of Ukraine (Verkhovna Rada)
Nkechi Asogwa  As an Individual
Mohini Datta-Ray  Executive Director, Planned Parenthood Toronto
Julia Anderson  Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Partnership for Women and Children's Health
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Ariane Gagné-Frégeau

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

I call the meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 54 of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development.

Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the House order of June 23, 2022. Members are attending in person in the room as well as remotely through the Zoom application.

I would like to make a few comments for the benefit of the members and the witnesses.

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As a reminder, all comments should be addressed through the chair.

In accordance with our routine motion, I have been informed by the clerk that all witnesses have completed the required connection tests in advance of the meeting.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, June 20, 2022, the committee resumes its study of the sexual and reproductive health and rights of women globally.

It's a great pleasure to have with us today two witnesses for the first panel.

From Equality Fund, we have Ms. Beth Woroniuk, who is the vice-president of policy. We also have Ms. Lesia Vasylenko joining us, a member of parliament in Ukraine.

You will each be provided five minutes for your opening remarks, after which there will be questions from the members. I will signal you when you have only 30 seconds remaining as an indicator to please wrap up your comments. This applies not only to your opening remarks but also to when members are asking you questions. Please try to look at me every once in a while so that I can let you know how much time you have remaining.

On that note, we are very grateful that Ms. Woroniuk is here in person.

You will start off with five minutes. The floor is yours.

11:05 a.m.

Beth Woroniuk Vice-President, Policy, Equality Fund

Thank you, Mr. Chair and honourable members.

In the mid-1980s, I was living in Nicaragua. Abortion was illegal, and I was often told that it was not an issue, as Nicaraguans loved children, yet a much-needed public debate erupted when researchers went to the local papers with the news that, on average, at least 10 women were admitted to hospital every day with health complications from botched abortions. This was clear evidence all those years ago that restrictions do not stop abortions from happening but instead increase unsafe abortions.

I'm grateful to the committee for the opportunity to appear today. I represent the Equality Fund, a Canadian-based women's fund that supports women's rights organizations and feminist funds in the global south and east. At present, Equality Fund resources are flowing to over 300 women's rights organizations and LGBTQI groups in about 85 countries.

In my brief time I will comment on global trends, provide examples of how activists work on SRHR issues—sexual and reproductive health and rights issues—and end with a short note on Canada's role.

I will not repeat the important data witnesses have shared, but I will highlight that while there have been important gains, primarily in Latin America, overall there are grave concerns regarding attempts to roll back progress. We are seeing well-funded and organized attacks on advocates and coordinated efforts to limit and restrict comprehensive sexuality education and abortion rights. This is often referred to as the “anti-gender” movement, and it is intimately linked to efforts to restrict LGBTQI rights and generally roll back advances on women's rights.

Women's rights organizations are attempting to hold the line in the face of these attacks. Here are examples drawn from the list of organizations the Equality Fund has the privilege to support.

First, women's rights organizations actually deliver SRHR services free or at a reduced cost. The Marsa Sexual Health Centre in Lebanon provides confidential and anonymous services, including testing for HIV and sexually transmitted diseases. Services are provided in a friendly environment free of stigma and discrimination. A Cameroonian organization provides psychosocial support, vocational training and temporary housing to girls fleeing early and forced marriage.

Second, organizations advocate promotion and protection of the sexual and reproductive rights of women and young people. This involves dialogue with both local and national authorities. For example, the Sarajevo Open Centre publishes regular reports on the state of human rights of women in Bosnia and Herzegovina that include extensive discussion and evidence on SRHR issues.

Third, women's rights organizations work to counter misinformation. In Asia, an organization operates a hotline to ensure that people have accurate information and advice. Others are working in innovative ways in digital spaces to get clear and understandable information to those seeking it.

Fourth, women's rights activists work at the community level and engage in discussions on social attitudes and practices. The Balance group in Mexico has produced a graphic novel. In Nepal, Hamro Palo works with schoolgirls in remote areas to reverse persistent taboos around menstruation.

This brings me to Canada's role.

Canada's unwavering support for sexual and reproductive rights is an integral part of supporting the rights of women, girls and gender-diverse people. It is important that Canada speak out clearly and consistently in global forums and bilateral discussions and as we formulate and implement all elements of our foreign policy. Leadership and joining with allies are essential.

In conclusion, these are our recommendations:

First, continue and expand support to women's rights organizations. Despite the essential role these organizations play, they are dramatically underfunded. According to the latest OECD DAC figures, overall development-assisted funding to women's rights organizations has actually decreased.

Second, release the long-promised feminist foreign policy. SRHR is core to gender justice. A clear document that outlines Canada's coherent, rights-based approach to feminist foreign policy will ensure that our diplomats and aid workers have clear guidelines for their work.

Third, ensure that SRHR is a core programming area in Canada's responses to crises. The government is currently developing Canada's third national action plan on women, peace and security and updating the gender-responsive humanitarian assistance policy. Resources for SRHR, especially the neglected areas, should be key elements in these two plans.

Fourth, make clear and consistent progress on SRHR funding commitments, especially in funding for the neglected areas outlined by previous witnesses, and ensure clear and regular public reporting on spending and impacts.

Fifth, and finally, continue to be a strong global advocate on SRHR in particular and the rights of women, girls and LGBTQI people in general. As United Nations Secretary-General Guterres said last year, “We are seeing a pushback on women’s rights; we must push back on the pushback.” In this push-back against the push-back, Canada’s leadership and investments are essential.

Thank you. I look forward to your questions.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Thank you very much, Ms. Woroniuk.

I've been advised by the clerk that we're having some technical problems with our second witness. If it's okay with everyone, we'll proceed with questioning. Then, when the second witness connects, we'll have her do her opening remarks.

Go ahead, Mr. Genuis.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

How significant are the technical problems?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

She's trying to connect. We've been in touch with her, but she has yet to actually connect.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Mr. Chair, given that the witness is coming from Ukraine, we should indulge this process for a few moments so that she can connect under very difficult circumstances.

11:15 a.m.

A voice

Do you want to suspend?

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Go ahead, Mr. Bergeron.

11:15 a.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

Mr. Chair, weren't the tests done already?

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

No, they didn't, because she wasn't connected. They did an initial test. Subsequently, she said she would be back, but she isn't. She's trying to connect. They did the test initially.

Can we proceed with questions? Is everyone okay with that?

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, we had some specific questions for the witness from Ukraine.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Hopefully, she will be joining us.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Do we want to mix up the order a bit? I'm happy to switch the order around, because we would like to ask her questions.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Sure.

First, from your side, I have Mrs. Kramp—

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

What I mean is that I'm happy for the government side to take the first round of questions, if they have questions for this witness. We have specific questions prepared that we want to ask the Ukrainian MP.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

The same goes for all of us.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I know, but if people are comfortable with altering the order of questions, and if they have—

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

No.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Okay. Mrs. Kramp-Neuman, you have six minutes.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Shelby Kramp-Neuman Conservative Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

If I may, I believe we're seeking to suspend for a little while, in order to give her some time and to see whether she can join us.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

We have a very tight schedule today already. We have only 45 minutes for this panel, to be followed by another panel. I think we should make the most of the time we have. Also, out of respect for the witness who has appeared—

Yes, go ahead.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON

Could I suggest we do a rapid round with this witness, then do a rapid round with the second witness, and try that?

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

What we were thinking of doing is starting questions. As soon as the Ukrainian witness is available, we will go to her. Whatever time remains, it will—

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON

I'm suggesting three minutes for each of the four parties.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Absolutely.