Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you all for being here today. I know it's sometimes difficult, as you all have very busy jobs, so it's very kind of you to come and share your expertise with us.
This is a very complex bill because, of course, it touches on so many different areas.
Ms. Hulan, you won't be surprised that I'm going to ask you about the cluster munitions piece. I'm sure you've heard my thoughts on the TPNW, the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons, and the work that needs to be done in Ukraine on land mines.
With regard to cluster munitions, in your testimony you talked about the indirect financing of cluster munitions and not wanting to have people with pensions and whatnot be implicated. My question to you is this. Why would we want to allow anyone, including pensioners or others with pension funds, to invest in banned weapons? Many other countries have strong divestment policies, so I don't understand why that would be a rationale for why Canada allows that to happen.