Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I will go to Mr. Neve.
Thank you for being here and advising us on the legislation. I think it's very important, which is why I want to give you a little more time on it.
I'm thinking back many years to cases we have worked on together, where there have been times when it has been appropriate for government and civil society to speak loudly and cases where it has been important for civil society to speak loudly and government to be quiet. There have also been cases where it was important for civil society and government to both be quiet to save lives.
I very much appreciate your remarks regarding the publicizing of such names. I had not thought previously about what happens when someone's name is not on the list, which could perhaps signal the wrong thing. I also very much appreciate your concern about “prisoners of conscience” as a not well-defined term legally, and I very much appreciate your remarks regarding how we could do that.
I want to give you the rest of my time for you to talk a little more about the positives and negatives of publishing such a list and about the naming of what we're doing.