Evidence of meeting #66 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Stephen Burridge  Director, Sanctions Policy and Operations Coordination, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Scott Nesbitt  General Counsel, Department of Justice, Legal Services Unit, Canada Border Services Agency
Marie-Hélène Sauvé  Legislative Clerk
Richard St Marseille  Director General, Immigration Policy and External Review, Canada Border Services Agency

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Shall the title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Shall the bill as amended carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Shall the chair report the bill as amended to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

At this point, we don't have any other items on the agenda, so I'll put the question back to the committee. If there's a desire on the part of the committee, there are a number of items that I know members have expressed interest in dealing with. We can deal with those, or we can adjourn.

I would like to either adjourn or suspend so that we can give the officials time to step away. Perhaps we could do a quick straw poll and ask which members are interested in adjourning.

I'm not seeing any hands, but I think I have a majority of the committee indicating that they would prefer to adjourn. Is that...?

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Liberal

Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON

Can we suspend rather than adjourning?

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Could we suspend and discuss adjourning...?

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NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I would want to have a vote on adjourning.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Okay.

Let's take a vote on adjourning. If there is not agreement to adjourn, then we will suspend.

Do you have a point of order, Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe?

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Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

I have a question, Mr. Chair. As you know, I am not an expert in procedure.

Are you suggesting we take a five-minute break so the officials can leave, or do you want to adjourn the meeting?

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe, I'm offering the committee the option. As you know, adjournment is not something that the chair is supposed to do of their own will. Adjournment is dependent on the will of the committee. There was nothing else on the agenda besides Bill S-8, but we certainly have the option to deal with other matters.

I'm putting the question back to the committee. I got the sense that there was a desire to have a vote on the question of adjournment.

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NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I would rather have us just continue on and certainly not adjourn.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

I have Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe on a point of order.

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Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Mr. Chair, it is clear that Ms. McPherson had a motion she would like to discuss. Don't we also have to vote on some budgets?

We have the room and resources at our disposal for two hours. Taxpayers will pay the same amount whether we leave now or stay. I think they would rather have us stay and do our job.

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Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

I have a point of order.

I would like to ask, Mr. Chair, if you would you dismiss the witnesses so we can continue with our discussion.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Is it the will of the majority of the committee that we—

This was the question I wanted to ask because as the chair, I'm not trying to make the decision myself. I'd like to know if....

Either way, we should suspend to dismiss the officials.

Is it the desire of the committee to adjourn now or to suspend?

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NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

We don't need to suspend. We don't always suspend.

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Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

We've never suspended in the past to dismiss officials. It's always been done in the midst of a meeting. This would be the first time that it ever happened in this committee.

I'm suggesting that you simply—

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

I'm not seeing a consensus, so I will suspend for a couple of minutes—

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NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I don't think we need to suspend.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

I think maybe there will be some discussion. There are certain matters we need to deal with in camera as well, so we'll suspend and resume in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Garnett Genuis

Colleagues, we're resuming in public.

I don't know that I said this in the confusion at the end, but I do want to say thank you to the officials for their testimony. I'm very pleased that we were able to get through Bill S-8 so quickly.

I think there's a desire now for the committee to have some discussion on other matters.

I see that Ms. McPherson has her hand raised.

Go ahead, Ms. McPherson. You now have the floor.