When this bill started—l'll go back to that, and I'm not a psychologist—I know there was resistance to the Magnitsky bill, because it was a whole new topic, a whole new area that would need to be explored. There is a hesitancy to start new ventures.
That is why this bill.... All the people who helped me sat down and said it's a starting point. We know what we want: we want to stop the abusers. We don't want them in Canada, but we don't want them.... We want the right signals to go to our partners and to the broader community and to those who really suffer on the ground in other countries. I said that's the part we know. How to apply it is within the domain of civil servants, within the domain of the government. Surely with the fine minds and expertise there, that is where they could tell us how they could accomplish the ends we want.
They may be doing it now to a certain extent, and I think they are, but they could do more in relaying it to the general public, because it is not the kind of information that is confidential. In some cases, it might be, if it's in money laundering or something else; but in other cases, we have talked about what we do want to further human rights, and we could do that here. We need to report, and we need to have Parliament involved.