This committee heard, actually, from David Beasley, the former head of the World Food Programme, just last year that every dollar we spend now saves us $1,000. That's a thousand times more in the future with regard to the cost of conflict, the cost of human suffering. We know that.
We also know that in Canada, the cost of food is going up. You'll know that the argument we've heard is not one I support, but I'd like to give you an opportunity to provide some context for it. The argument is that we can't afford to support other people around the world because it's so costly for Canadians to buy food in Canada. What would you say to that, Mr. Hagerman?